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Re: Champions League

Postby Girgensons » March 16th, 2012, 9:42 pm

Donny wrote:
Girgensons wrote:Newsflash: we don't play just 3v3. We play 3v3 and 4v4, plus the best teams play in the Champions league. And we might switch to only 4v4 in the next season.


A Div 2 team who loses in the first round of the cup plays 14 3v3 games and 1 4v4 game. Hmm... Yeah...

A succesful team will have to play 7+ 4on4 matches this season.


You might be a dick and not be fussed about leaving like 5 players out of a team

An ad hominem argument and a straw man all in one sentence.

1) Unless players are self-centered twits, rotation of players has never been a problem in the numerous teams that I've played. My Russian team currently has 11 players, no one has whined about it. So I'm not sure who's the dick, if you consider whining about not getting to play the norm.
2) If the roster limit would be increased to 6 (which is what I reccomended), leaving 5 players out would mean that the team would have to field only 1 player in a competitive match, which is an impossible scenario. Your exaggeration is ridiculous and it doesn't help your argument.

there is some captains on here that aren't keen on leaving players out, especially a load of players from the way you're sounding.

So:
a) don't have 6 players on your team, no one is forcing you to do that;
b) rotate the players -- problem solved.

I was a captain in the first season and part of the second so I know it isn't great leaving out players.

So don't.

You're sounding like you're selfish care more about winning then everyone getting to play

First of all, what you're presenting is a false choice. Second, winning=fun. Losing=not fun. Every hax player that I know is playing to win and thoroughly enjoys winning. Maximizing the chances of winning thus is in the best interests for every member of the team.

at the end of the day its a flash game.

Yes, it is. What is your point?

I'm sure 90% of the people on here would rather be playing first team Haxball in a 5 man squad in the league then be the 7th choice in an 8 man squad.

I'd rather be a 7th choice in a succesful 1st Div team rather than the top guy in a shit Div 2 squad.

Also - you're assuming that the 7th guy doesn't get to play, which is BS.

We don't need massive squads for a league that is mainly 3v3

We don't need massive squads, no.

I don't care if I'm a first choice player in a Div 1 team or 10th choice in a Div 2 team.

So, to conclude, there's no reason to not increase the roster limit.
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Re: Champions League

Postby Guest » March 16th, 2012, 10:13 pm

Girgensons wrote:We don't need massive squads, no.


So I win. gg no re. wp girgensons.

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Re: Champions League

Postby Girgensons » March 16th, 2012, 11:50 pm

You would win if:
a) you would be arguing against someone that would try to introduce massive squads here;
b) you wouldn't be cut from a team that's at the very bottom of Div 2.
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Re: Champions League

Postby Guest » March 17th, 2012, 12:15 am

Wow. Poor from you. Lose so you bring up that I left my team without knowing the facts, like the one where I asked to leave. Image

Lets leave this now.

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Re: Champions League

Postby naby » March 17th, 2012, 1:34 am

I'm not the only one who looked at it the other way round and wondered why they have ridiculously unnecessarily stupidly retardedly huge rosters then? Great.

Roster of 5 is perfect for our league, there is simply no need or requirement to increase it. Having 8 players in 1 team that plays 3v3 is just stupid as fuck.
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Re: Champions League

Postby Girgensons » March 17th, 2012, 9:42 am

Rachel wrote:I'm not the only one who looked at it the other way round and wondered why they have ridiculously unnecessarily stupidly retardedly huge rosters then? Great.

You obviously have 0 experience in 4on4.

Roster of 5 is perfect for our league

Why?

there is simply no need or requirement to increase it.

See posts above.

Having 8 players in 1 team that plays 3v3 is just stupid as fuck.

There's not a single team here that plays only 3on3 and I don't think anyone wants to have a roster limit of 8, so not sure what you're talking about.

Classy swearing, btw.
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Re: Champions League

Postby Aidan » March 17th, 2012, 9:52 am

Pick players who turn up you have no problems.
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Re: Champions League

Postby naby » March 17th, 2012, 10:15 am

Girgensons wrote:
Rachel wrote:I'm not the only one who looked at it the other way round and wondered why they have ridiculously unnecessarily stupidly retardedly huge rosters then? Great.

You obviously have 0 experience in 4on4.

Roster of 5 is perfect for our league

Why?

there is simply no need or requirement to increase it.

See posts above.

Having 8 players in 1 team that plays 3v3 is just stupid as fuck.

There's not a single team here that plays only 3on3 and I don't think anyone wants to have a roster limit of 8, so not sure what you're talking about.

Classy swearing, btw.


Why are you continuing to argue when you have no valid argument to argue for? We're fine with rosters of 5, and we're fine with 3v3. If you have problems, then leave.

So maybe a lot of players here play 4v4 in other leagues, that's OTHER leagues. This is FM, what they do outside of FM has absolutely no affiliation with our league.
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Re: Champions League

Postby Gord » March 17th, 2012, 10:45 am

Maddude wrote:Cath wants cathletico replaced, lpc in?


Fund it.
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Re: Champions League

Postby Guest » March 17th, 2012, 10:53 am

The captains have to sign up to - http://haxball-champions.com/index.php

Then you've got to post your squads before the end of tomorrow.

I remind to announce squads. Do it please as fast as possible. Deadline is 22:00 CET on Sunday.

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Re: Champions League

Postby GOKU » March 17th, 2012, 11:50 am

I just posted my squad then deleted....
Do I need 8 players? :/
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Re: Champions League

Postby naby » March 17th, 2012, 11:57 am

GOKU wrote:I just posted my squad then deleted....
Do I need 8 players? :/


No that's just reccomended. As long as you get 3 players to turn up then you're fine. All these eurofags seem to think you need a roster of 8 to guarantee 3 players turning up. So much mindderp it's unreal.
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Re: Champions League

Postby Guest » March 17th, 2012, 12:01 pm

Rachel wrote:
GOKU wrote:I just posted my squad then deleted....
Do I need 8 players? :/


No that's just reccomended. As long as you get 3 players to turn up then you're fine. All these eurofags seem to think you need a roster of 8 to guarantee 3 players turning up. So much mindderp it's unreal.


It's 4's babe.

If you only have 3 or less for a game then you automatically lose.

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Re: Champions League

Postby Girgensons » March 17th, 2012, 1:28 pm

Why are you continuing to argue when you have no valid argument to argue for?

Telling me that I don't have a valid argument doesn't make it true, dear.

The fact of the matter is that I haven't heard a single valid counter-argument so far.

We're fine with rosters of 5, and we're fine with 3v3. If you have problems, then leave.

Who's we? I'd rather here the thoughts of a team manager who's going to play more than 1 4on4 match this season.

"If you have problems, then leave" is probably the most narrow-minded thing I've read in this thread. And that's after Donny's ramblings. Also, would you say the same thing to Maddude, if he said it? Because he does support the same thing I do. No need to be stupid and xenophobic at the same time.

So maybe a lot of players here play 4v4 in other leagues, that's OTHER leagues. This is FM, what they do outside of FM has absolutely no affiliation with our league.

Ever heard of the Cup? Ever heard of the Champions League? Or you just don't give a shit how well our teams compete there?
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Re: Champions League

Postby Zizou » March 17th, 2012, 2:24 pm

GET A LIFE.
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Re: Champions League

Postby Girgensons » March 17th, 2012, 2:34 pm

Zizou wrote:GET A LIFE.

NO, YOU GET A LIFE
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Re: Champions League

Postby Mick » March 17th, 2012, 2:41 pm

I don't see what all the screaming is for, squad limit should be optional surely, 1 team might want to have 357 players whereas other will want only 4

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Re: Champions League

Postby OvoXo » March 17th, 2012, 3:07 pm

MICK YOU HOMO, GET THE FUCK OUT OF ADULT TALKS.

you fucking faggot
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Re: Champions League

Postby Cam_Sampbell » March 17th, 2012, 5:06 pm

You just make sure you have five active players, simple.

This is a 3v3 league primarily, and it shouldn't hard getting four of the five players online if you ask them to, if you pick the right players.
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Re: Champions League

Postby Girgensons » March 17th, 2012, 7:21 pm

Cam_Sampbell wrote:You just make sure you have five active players, simple.

This is a 3v3 league primarily, and it shouldn't hard getting four of the five players online if you ask them to, if you pick the right players.

Why shouldn't I, as a team captain, be able to have, say, 6 players on my team? Why? :>

Because you don't like having 6 players in your team? You don't have to have 6 players in your team. :>

Because you don't like that the players in your team can't play the whole length of every single of the 15-20+ matches of the season? It's not your team. If a player doesn't like it in a certain team, he can always ask the captain/manager to be traded away.

Players have certain positions that they play in. If someone can't make it and he can't be replaced by someone that excels in that same position, the game plan is ruined and the level of the game displayed decreases.

Why should I be held hostage to this ridiculous 5 player roster limit?

Haven't heard a single sound, logical answer to this question so far.
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