Deadly Monkees vs TI Spara

[Aidan]

Lets get back to the real business everyone can see its unfair and unjust rematch has to be in order

[mlfaijati]

Ok so say Joehan didn't pause and Fabien scored, there would be a shitstorm about the fact that DM scored when 3 of the TI players had stopped which would not be fairplay etc. So either way, Joehan was in a shit position in which he could not do anything that could please everyone.

[naby]

dont think fab would of scored it tbh

That's besides the point, the rule states you can't pause when it disrupts a clear goal scoring opportunity

[Aidan]

No there wouldnt ? because he shouldnt have paused, the pause should never have happened never mind stop a goal

[naby]

Ok so say Joehan didn't pause and Fabien scored, there would be a shitstorm about the fact that DM scored when 3 of the TI players had stopped which would not be fairplay etc. So either way, Joehan was in a shit position in which he could not do anything that could please everyone.

A shitstorm about that would have been pointless, there's nothing in the rules against unfair play, it would have been sparta's fault for stopping

[Aidan]

The pause completley fucks up his timing and everything he ended up miss-kicking it so

[Aidan]

The thing thats getting me is everyone saying he should have paused earlier lul

HE SHOULD NO HAVE PAUSED AT ALL BECAUSE NINOS PHONE RANG.

[Cam_Sampbell]

I think out of fairness, the game should be played again. With the mistake by Ghost last season in Ajhax v Bayern where the game was stopped in an error, and it could be fixed in the game. But with this, it couldn't be fixed, and despite nobody having the intention to do it, or to gain from it, it happened, and the only fair way to resolve it is to replay the game.

Like with player impersonation (like Ajhax v LPC), it's a factor that had the potential to make one team gain an advantage unfairly, and it could not be resolved in the game, so a replay was played, and this should happen here.

[anglo]

This is so silly. And asking for a rematch? We didnt pause the game, joehan did, it wasnt our fault.

[Cam_Sampbell]

I've said that, and the only way for it to be fair is for the game to be replayed. Nobody meant to do it, nobody planned it, but Sparta had the potential to gain from it as DM were in a goalscoring position (I say potential, as this isn't an argument of whether he would have scored it, it's that he could have done).

[anglo]

So that's fair haha? Sparta had 2-0 at that moment, and won 3-1. To play a rematch because joe paused and "might have denied a goal" doesnt sound fair to me.

[Aidan]

The game would have been 2-2 at the point in the match if the goal went in yeah ?

This would mean a completely different style of play for Monkees as we were still going all out attack which forced us to concede a goal,where as if it was 2-2 we would have been able to sit back and hit on the counter and not concede therefore the match would have probably remained at 2-2 or even the way the second half was going anyone watching it would have know at 2-2 we would have been clear favourites to go on and win.

[Cam_Sampbell]

So that's fair haha? Sparta had 2-0 at that moment, and won 3-1. To play a rematch because joe paused and "might have denied a goal" doesnt sound fair to me.

So it's fair that Sparta gained an advantage from an outside factor?

What could happen if this isn't fixed? Someone could see this, and make an arrangement with an admin to cause more scenarios like this to aid their teams. By replaying the game, FM will show that it won't let admin errors go by untouched, despite no-one wanting these errors to have happened.

If you don't want to win fairly, then you don't deserve to win imo.

[anglo]

2-0.

No it isnt fair Cam. And that's just a silly comment. It could be the other way around then, they wanted admin to pause to get a rematch cuz they were down 2-0.

[Aidan]

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN 2-2

[OvoXo]

This is absolute bollocks you guys are talking about.

1. We didn't match fix this game. For someone to even think about saying that is ludicrous.
2. First half DM did not have a GK so that's probably why they were down by 2 goals. I don't think anyone will deny that because Aidan had to play GK and it changed their whole style.
3. The pause shouldn't had have happened, but it happened. Also THE FACT is that no one can say for 100% that ball would have gone in.
4. Even if the ball did go in it would have been 2-1 at the time.
5. No one can say for sure what would happen next, well for certain it would alter the game.
6. Second half they played with ksd, and the game ended as 1-1.

You can't say we don't deserve the win if we won 3-1....

[anglo]

And besides, admins should always be neutral, else they shouldnt be admins.

[Cam_Sampbell]

2-0.

No it isnt fair Cam. And that's just a silly comment. It could be the other way around then, they wanted admin to pause to get a rematch cuz they were down 2-0.

Nice ignoring of my points.

What could have happened isn't important. What did happen is important though, and what happened was that Sparta had an unfair advantage.

What would you say if you had played for DM anyway?

[Mick]

I'm with Aidan. Pausing to get the phone is ludicrous, especially in an FM league game. I don't even pick up the phone when I'm watching the TV and it's literally a few metres away. The second half should be replayed however, not the whole game. ( and play from 2-0)

[Cam_Sampbell]

This is absolute bollocks you guys are talking about.

1. We didn't match fix this game. For someone to even think about saying that is ludicrous.
>> Read my post again, I said it could lead to it, I didn't anywhere say that it happened.
2. First half DM did not have a GK so that's probably why they were down by 2 goals. I don't think anyone will deny that because Aidan had to play GK and it changed their whole style.
>> Not relevant
3. The pause shouldn't had have happened, but it happened. Also THE FACT is that no one can say for 100% that ball would have gone in.
>> The potential isn't important. It shouldn't have happened, and needs to the fixed.
4. Even if the ball did go in it would have been 2-1 at the time.
>> Not relevant
5. No one can say for sure what would happen next, well for certain it would alter the game.
>> It could have done. Attempts at match-fixing can fail, but those attempting it are surely still guilty? Again, not saying you fixed it, it's a hypothetical situation.
6. Second half they played with ksd, and the game ended as 1-1.
>> Not relevant

You can't say we don't deserve the win if we won 3-1....

Ovo pls