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Re: New Captains and information

PostPosted: June 17th, 2013, 4:30 pm
by dora da gora
you come 1st you should win

simple as.

Re: New Captains and information

PostPosted: June 17th, 2013, 4:38 pm
by Joehan
But tbh, nobody really cares too much about Champions League spots

and @hesur, it's weighted so the top 2 have to lose 2 games to be knocked out of the playoffs while 3rd and 4th have to lose only one to be knocked out

Re: New Captains and information

PostPosted: June 17th, 2013, 5:15 pm
by Mick
dis fred is 4 gay boys

Re: New Captains and information

PostPosted: June 17th, 2013, 5:19 pm
by lr16
jonnyynnoj wrote:Allow ghost, he gets a bit confused sometimes (old age etc.)

For next season, the winner of the playoffs will be crowned champions of division 1. Obviously we're always looking for ways to improve the league and as it's been mentioned a few times that the end of a season can sometimes feel a bit stale, we have decided to trial the playoffs system this season. Anyone around from season 4 will remember that dramatic final day and personally I feel if we could have that every season FM would be better off.

Remember that this is on trial for this season. If it doesn't work, then we'll go back to the old system. Nothing lost.


While some teams (and players) might find the end of a season to be stale, there's presumably 25 other teams who disagree with you. Involve the community in making decisions rather than trial new systems.

If it doesn't work, a team who has spent countless of hours winning every game and gaining the 1st spot will have to beat worse teams in order to win again, and that's what's to be lost. Nothing lost is a terrible way of arguing your views.

Re: New Captains and information

PostPosted: June 17th, 2013, 5:35 pm
by OvoXo
Nothing will ever equal the excitement of season 4 finale, that was some serious shit, but the only reason it was so good is because it was a 3 way tie, a 2 way tie would seem pretty dull to me imo.

AND 10 MINUTE HALVES FOR FINALE

Re: New Captains and information

PostPosted: June 17th, 2013, 5:52 pm
by Chillmaz
why are you guys trying to destroy such a wonderful league? :(
first attempt to change the court to big easy
now this :(
if you wanna do the playoff "trial" really badly, try it at joehan+rens league first please.

Re: New Captains and information

PostPosted: June 17th, 2013, 6:28 pm
by dooms
Div 2a
The Crab House
Poke attackers
NWA
Wood Berry
Ricemen
Ajhax
The Mighty Bantams
Yellow Wolves
Cathletico
Gorillas

Div 2b
IKEA Deutschland
Via Vita Veritas
ACDP
Seedstitch
Maos
Mighty Ducks
Panthers
Icebears
JOUKKUE
Oreo hc

Re: New Captains and information

PostPosted: June 17th, 2013, 7:06 pm
by rolex
did we win

Re: New Captains and information

PostPosted: June 17th, 2013, 7:06 pm
by Gord
yeh bro we got into div1 snm

Re: New Captains and information

PostPosted: June 17th, 2013, 7:49 pm
by te][o
good luck to fm with its expansion

Re: New Captains and information

PostPosted: June 17th, 2013, 8:42 pm
by Maddude
Chillmaz wrote:why are you guys trying to destroy such a wonderful league? :(
first attempt to change the court to big easy
now this :(
if you wanna do the playoff "trial" really badly, try it at joehan+rens league first please.


First off we don't have any affiliation with that league.

How are we trying to destroy this league?
How can you say you will not like this play-off system? Have you ever played in any league that uses it, do you know what it will mean? No.
If you haven't tried it then you cannot judge it, we are as jonny said trialling it, THIS DOES NOT MEAN ITS PERMANENT, so instead of whining and complaining you could actually try something else and if it is not approved and does not work out well, we'll go back to being YeS 2.0.

Basically if you do not like it and aren't even willing to try it, fuck off.

Re: New Captains and information

PostPosted: June 17th, 2013, 8:44 pm
by dora da gora
cya

Re: New Captains and information

PostPosted: June 17th, 2013, 8:56 pm
by rolex
fuk da feds

Re: New Captains and information

PostPosted: June 17th, 2013, 9:09 pm
by noj
lr16 wrote:If it doesn't work, a team who has spent countless of hours winning every game and gaining the 1st spot will have to beat worse teams in order to win again, and that's what's to be lost. Nothing lost is a terrible way of arguing your views.

I'm not talking about what teams have to lose or gain through a playoff system; obviously some teams may lose out and others may gain. I'm saying that as a community, as a league, FM has nothing to lose by trying new formats such as this. FM will continue the same if the playoffs fail or become stronger if the playoffs prove a success.

Re: New Captains and information

PostPosted: June 17th, 2013, 10:23 pm
by lr16
I was planning on providing a counter-argument but after seeing maddude's last post, I'll pass.

Re: New Captains and information

PostPosted: June 17th, 2013, 10:35 pm
by Joehan
I was gonna have a counter-argument for lr16 but he doesnt seem to have a counter argument to maddude & jonny so owell

Re: New Captains and information

PostPosted: June 17th, 2013, 11:12 pm
by Chillmaz
whatever im sick of discussing. do what huub said

Re: New Captains and information

PostPosted: June 17th, 2013, 11:16 pm
by Shaps
:popcorn:

Re: New Captains and information

PostPosted: June 18th, 2013, 7:22 am
by naby
Might wanna wait a bit before sorting divisions, i'll probably disband.

After watching my home town win the league 3 years in a row and consistently be the best team by far outside super league, yet only be considered 'champions' once, I've experienced the play-off system first-hand. It's shit. It's utter shit. I don't agree with it at all.

You think it works? Why do you think rugby league is undergoing serious talks to change the format? It's because it doesn't work. But hey, you'll just reply "this is an online game, not irl". But really, it makes no fucking difference. At the end of the day, it just doesn't work.

P.S. Thumbs up for asking for community first.

Re: New Captains and information

PostPosted: June 18th, 2013, 9:44 am
by te][o
i understand the logic behind it, let's try it and see if it works, no harm done

but then again you could also make a league wide playoffs, winner of each division face each other in a playoff to determine the overall winner of FM.

sounds crazy? I guess. But there's as many reasons for that crazy measure than there are for what you are proposing:
let's try it and see if it's fun.

i fail to see any other reasoning in favor of playoffs, because if you start to approach the matter using competition coherency then it all falls apart for one main reason: league competition is there to gift consistency, nothing else. If you add a playoff system you are neglecting the relevance of said consistency and making it an equal competition to those we already have (cup, champions league) were it's mostly about getting out there on the big nights and going all in.

I'm all up for change to keep things fresh but this is really too much american for me even thought I'm a NBA fan, I wish they would defend on regular season, and they really don't, because of this :pale: .