Ovo on the recent Starlights game

[OvoXo]

Some of this is towards Perkin, Starlights and the rest on why there should be a rule parallel to the previous decisions made regarding ineligible players.

1. Perkins you posted that #SL have taken the defwin, I dunno who decided but you're the spokesperson anyway and you made the post so you're accountable for the decision on behalf of your team. That's in regards to every bodies reply that you got.

2. Right now we have a sticky situation because there are LOTS of other teams who played, players who have played for other teams that are ineligible. I'm not gonna rat the teams out or the players who are guilty of breaking this rule. I counted 3 teams.

3. My point is that there is no consistency at all going on. One team is doing one thing and the other team is doing another. I don't want to quote what Jonny said about the Bayer and G.I Joehan game but the main point was consistency.

So to conclude the other 3 teams who violated these rules are they going to be punished? Or is that not of your concern because it doesn't affect you or your team or will an admin intervene in all these cases of players being ineligible.

My main point is that there is no consistency in this rule and I call for a change. On one hand, no, on a whole HAND in the past no team took a defwin from an ineligible player and every case admins intervened and said rematch it, but this case a defwin is given (Which was a rash decision by Perkins, I dunno where in his post he said that he consulted any admin it just seemed like he made the decision or his team w/e). So there is no consistency in this rule and I think a change should be made.

You can clearly see that Team 0815 had no intention of playing and inelgibile player because they had another player in the specs, they assumed from the convo with dooms that they were allowed to play Gnaw.

Anyway this rule needs changing cause it clearly contradicts with the consistent rematches that we had in the past.

P.S - Starlights the fact that you take a defwin after Team 0815 played incredibly well and their defence was superb in that game you felt robbed so you result to finding a problem and exploiting it. Cifteli was MOTM he made countless number of saves leaving your team smashing the keyboard. Also a team of your caliber to be taking defwins just says how scummy and desperate you are to winning the league. aguero10 and kAoS clearly said they don't care about this league they're here just for fun, and I don't care what they think or want to do, but some of us care and we want it to be a fair environment.

Try winning the league with pride and some dignity and don't turn into the UK version of Silas Beavers we all know how that ended :/

So I'm calling for Admins to intervene and make a decision like in every other scenario in the past seasons because these cases keep creeping up and a final rule should be made to put scenarios like this to bed for good.

I had to STRESS consistency a lot because that's what we need.

Thanks

Ovo



ONE MORE P.S for laughs

Look at this .gif and laugh with me pls. Starlights



aguero10: fk this
kAoS: rly tien
kAoS: rls

[stjärna]

+5 rep, I'm slacking in the reputation department but I would rep this.

[Joehan]

+1

what jonny says here in the gi joehans v bayern neverlosin thread, where rachel announces the admins decision for a rematch after bayern play haz.be, a player signed after the 6pm deadline (there was no choice for gi joehans whether to take a defwin or rematch), is very good reasoning:



he states there must be consistency, and there should, a rematch should be played.

link to said thread (for those with captains zone rights): viewtopic.php?f=34&t=2911

[Edgar Davids]

the rule doesn't have a specific punishment for it so it's up to the admins anyway, and if it's an admin claiming the defwin there's really not much else to it. it's snakey yeah, and it doesn't seem like it's been discussed much with the 100 other admins, but what can you do? it's not really a surprise tbh

[Joehan]

[OvoXo]

Edgar you're right, but bro, morally is it right for one admin to make a decision before the whole team made a decision? I mean what if the other said no but he insisted yes, doesn't that show there's corruption among the admins themselves?

[Edgar Davids]

well each of the admins are supposed to be capable of making decisions for the forum as a whole so you'd think they'd make sensible decisions even without consulting the others

[OvoXo]

One admin says one thing and another says another, I think some serious communication is lacking on their behalf in general.

Impeach Admin thread coming soon

[OvoXo]

Bump cause I don't know why Rachel is still running her mouth like a loose cannon with ignorance

[Ghost]

This is the first I've heard about any of this soooooo ...


Basically I understand that Gnaw signed for 0815 outside of the transfer window, but was not allowed to do so as he had previously played for another team this season. So when he played he was ineligible to play.

History shows that in the past with similar incidents we have just made the game be replayed, so I don't understand why a defwin is being claimed without consulting everyone else first?


I recommend the match be replayed, with Gnaw not being allowed to play in it or in any other matches until the transfer window reopens.





... mfw this thread even has to exist in the first place.

[dooms]

I'll jus post what i sed here:

by Rachel » September 10th, 2012, 11:01 am

Due to an ineligible player being fielded by Bayer, we have decided that this game must be replayed.

The conclusion was that Haz.be was allowed to sign for Bayer, after an admin error (the retirement from Masterchefs was not spotted). Due to this, a defwin cannot be awarded.

Haz.be will not be allowed to play in the replay.

Look at what you said there and look at what you say here.

by jonnyynnoj » September 10th, 2012, 5:55 pm

A replay is the best way to resolve the situation. We have to be consistent with things like this; if we choose not to replay this game what happens in future if someone fields an ineligible player? They will look back this game and point out that nothing was done.

It's already been explained numerous times why Haz.Be is ineligible for the game. The replay should take place under the exact conditions that would've existed on Sunday had this mistake not been made, and that means without Haz.Be who wouldn't have been able to play.

Let's have some consistency pls

This was when admins had to confirm signings in the forum, so it's understandable why there was no choice to take the defwin, right now it's up to the captains to know the rules about the transfer window

Since season 5, captains have always had the decision to defwin or not if the opponents field an illegible player and it'll probably be the same with starlights (i think)

imo just re the game, you'd want to win the title fairly, not because you chose to be mean to the opponents after you lost

[mlfaijati]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07wZiqJlu3U[/youtube]

In no case is there any reason to be upset my friends.

[naby]

This is the first I've heard about any of this soooooo ...


Basically I understand that Gnaw signed for 0815 outside of the transfer window, but was not allowed to do so as he had previously played for another team this season. So when he played he was ineligible to play.

History shows that in the past with similar incidents we have just made the game be replayed, so I don't understand why a defwin is being claimed without consulting everyone else first?


I recommend the match be replayed, with Gnaw not being allowed to play in it or in any other matches until the transfer window reopens.





... mfw this thread even has to exist in the first place.

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@ dooms - 26 Jul 2013, 11:33
''If they refuse to rematch then defwin goes to NWA. There's no excuse for not reading rules. Always go for the re over a defwin though, we like to be more classy about stuff like that here.''

Quote from admin section. To me, this says that it is up to the offended team to choose between a replay or a defwin.

[Perkins]

History shows that in the past with similar incidents we have just made the game be replayed, so I don't understand why a defwin is being claimed without consulting everyone else first?


I recommend the match be replayed, with Gnaw not being allowed to play in it or in any other matches until the transfer window reopens.

Then everyone is able to sign uneligible players and then ask for rematch because they didn't know and it's not fair. Ok.

[Joehan]

This is the first I've heard about any of this soooooo ...


Basically I understand that Gnaw signed for 0815 outside of the transfer window, but was not allowed to do so as he had previously played for another team this season. So when he played he was ineligible to play.

History shows that in the past with similar incidents we have just made the game be replayed, so I don't understand why a defwin is being claimed without consulting everyone else first?


I recommend the match be replayed, with Gnaw not being allowed to play in it or in any other matches until the transfer window reopens.





... mfw this thread even has to exist in the first place.

User avatar
@ dooms - 26 Jul 2013, 11:33
''If they refuse to rematch then defwin goes to NWA. There's no excuse for not reading rules. Always go for the re over a defwin though, we like to be more classy about stuff like that here.''

Quote from admin section. To me, this says that it is up to the offended team to choose between a replay or a defwin.

what? lol

that says that a rematch must be played unless bayer refuse
so rematch must be played here unless team 0815 refuse to play it, in that case starlights get the defwin

[rolex]

[Maddude]

anybody who posted in this thread before this post is banned next season

[Cam_Sampbell]

[te][o]

if Starlights complained after playing the game it says a lot about them.

Or very little.

I understand administrators are people capable of making decisions (I assume it's true, there's no proof whatsoever), but it should be stated that they cannot mediate in incidents that involve their own team, specially when there's plenty of admins to choose from.