Return of the reserve league... please?

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Return of the reserve league... please?

Postby Rénbeaudach » January 14th, 2013, 9:43 am

Seriously, I'm becoming more convinced this needs to happen.

Think about it, I suppose you remember me having a good old sulk about how the dearth of good UK players, and you were right, it's not really due to foreigners or anything like that... when was the last time you saw a (non-FM) 4v4 pub hosted in Britain?

It only figures that if they play 3v3 all the time, they won't have the positioning and tactical understanding of 4v4 needed to play it at a reasonable level. During my time at Cathletico I've realised that the standard for FM division 2 is much higher than any player new to the 4s format can cope with; set players fresh from Galaxy against the likes of aguero10, Maldo, Santiago, TTom... what do you think's going to happen?

The only way you can get players new to FM experience and playing time is with a lower level of competition. Obviously we don't have enough teams to create a third tier any time soon, but with our current squad sizes it doesn't seem unfeasible to re-introduce a reserve-league. There are a few players on my (and maybe one or two others') roster at the moment who I want to give playing time, but can't really as I want to stay at least somewhat competitive in Div 2.
Indeed there are about forty or so Free Agents who will almost certainly never get signed as it stands because A) they're new to FM and haven't played 4v4 seriously before and B) captains aren't really in a position to take chances on such players given what I seaid about the level of competition.

I stand by part of what I said a while back, and that is that FM represents (or should strive to represent) the UK hax community (if that's what you can call it), and one way or another it has to try to integrate new UK players, 'for the good of the game'.

Feel free to comment/flame/troll/make death threats/rolex to give some variation of tl;dr.
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Re: Return of the reserve league... please?

Postby s.signorelli » January 14th, 2013, 1:02 pm

Hesur and I are going to start a reserve league in season 6, but we need someone to sort the stats and fixtures out (im looking at you ren :P ). :P

although it would be easier if we got admin backing. :P
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Re: Return of the reserve league... please?

Postby naby » January 14th, 2013, 1:24 pm

Think first you'll need a list of teams opting in.

Starlights opt out. bibi x
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Re: Return of the reserve league... please?

Postby <º)))< » January 14th, 2013, 1:59 pm

Agree with Ren, and NWA in (just in case)
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Re: Return of the reserve league... please?

Postby s.signorelli » January 14th, 2013, 2:07 pm

Rachel wrote:Think first you'll need a list of teams opting in.

Starlights opt out. bibi x


np hesur and i have 7 (i can get two bayer reserves if we're desperate :P ) teams signed up already, we don't really need starlights anyway. :P

cya rach x
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Re: Return of the reserve league... please?

Postby Constantinople » January 14th, 2013, 2:09 pm

Well I proposed the idea of me and sig running a reserve league with potential help from admins to soc that would come into place in Season 6, but they said that they are brainstorming ways of getting more UK players into the league in the admin panel so lets see what happens there first.
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Re: Return of the reserve league... please?

Postby naby » January 14th, 2013, 2:54 pm

Didn't say you needed anything. Just saying for any list you are making, we aren't in it, and my input on this matter is closed.

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Re: Return of the reserve league... please?

Postby s.signorelli » January 14th, 2013, 2:59 pm

Rachel wrote:Didn't say you needed anything. Just saying for any list you are making, we aren't in it, and my input on this matter is closed.

bibi x


im just shocked that the previous UK manager is against an idea which will develop future talent, which may also improve the uk squad. :P
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Re: Return of the reserve league... please?

Postby Cam_Sampbell » January 14th, 2013, 3:07 pm

Mighty Ducks would be in if it happens.

I agree with all the points made in the OP, that new UK players aren't being given chances in teams like before. It's clear that players can improve in time, look at players like mlf (lol), Arctic, Breeezy etc who have risen up by being given a chance to play 4s at a decent level.

Also, it'd probably be better run than last time.
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Re: Return of the reserve league... please?

Postby Edgar Davids » January 14th, 2013, 3:07 pm

arriba are in + would like to send aidan + deer down to the reserve league pls

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Re: Return of the reserve league... please?

Postby dora da gora » January 14th, 2013, 3:09 pm

saddle up @mani @roly @joehen @sukh @gord @lynchy
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Re: Return of the reserve league... please?

Postby naby » January 14th, 2013, 3:18 pm

s.signorelli wrote:
Rachel wrote:Didn't say you needed anything. Just saying for any list you are making, we aren't in it, and my input on this matter is closed.

bibi x


im just shocked that the previous UK manager is against an idea which will develop future talent, which may also improve the uk squad. :P


Why would I care about that when I just barely even care about the game anymore?
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Re: Return of the reserve league... please?

Postby DoCtoRé » January 14th, 2013, 4:31 pm

Agreed, these kind of things are really great for developing UK players imo.
And its definitely not a surprise to see rachel not supporting the idea :)
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Re: Return of the reserve league... please?

Postby Girgensons » January 14th, 2013, 5:17 pm

So are you implying that English players don't know how/don't want to join foreign pub rooms and/or foreign 4on4 leagues?

Because if they do, there's a major hole in your reasoning.
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Re: Return of the reserve league... please?

Postby Joehan » January 14th, 2013, 7:01 pm

srs tho, foreign player cap shud be implemented
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Re: Return of the reserve league... please?

Postby dora da gora » January 14th, 2013, 7:03 pm

l0l wtf joe u have like 2 english ppl in ur team
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Re: Return of the reserve league... please?

Postby Joehan » January 14th, 2013, 7:04 pm

u dnt have a team now stfu
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Re: Return of the reserve league... please?

Postby mlfaijati » January 14th, 2013, 7:06 pm

blak of joe fap, hes just mad tht he gets benched for MD every week.
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Re: Return of the reserve league... please?

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Re: Return of the reserve league... please?

Postby naby » January 14th, 2013, 7:54 pm

Pedy wrote:Agreed, these kind of things are really great for developing UK players imo.
And its definitely not a surprise to see rachel not supporting the idea :)


>caring about a matter in a game i don't care about

that's like me asking you if you care about jagex revamping runescape's combat system

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