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Re: Champions League

Postby Zizou » March 17th, 2012, 8:15 pm

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Re: Champions League

Postby Cam_Sampbell » March 17th, 2012, 8:19 pm

Well, what's better, having players compete to try to win places in teams, or having players rot as a 6th player in a team? As if there are 6 players in a team, managers who want success won't play all 6 players, except for the rare occasion that their players aren't available.
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Re: Champions League

Postby Girgensons » March 17th, 2012, 9:38 pm

Cam_Sampbell wrote:Well, what's better, having players compete to try to win places in teams, or having players rot as a 6th player in a team? As if there are 6 players in a team, managers who want success won't play all 6 players, except for the rare occasion that their players aren't available.

You're making things up now.

As for my team, if the roster limit would be 6, FM would gain 1 new player. If it was 10, it would gain 5 new players. Is it not better to have more players and better, more competitive teams with less 2vs3, 2vs2, 3vs4 games and awkward position changes due to someone not turning up?
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Re: Champions League

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Re: Champions League

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Re: Champions League

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Re: Champions League

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Re: Champions League

Postby naby » March 18th, 2012, 8:19 am

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Cam_Sampbell wrote:Well, what's better, having players compete to try to win places in teams, or having players rot as a 6th player in a team? As if there are 6 players in a team, managers who want success won't play all 6 players, except for the rare occasion that their players aren't available.

You're making things up now.

As for my team, if the roster limit would be 6, FM would gain 1 new player. If it was 10, it would gain 5 new players. Is it not better to have more players and better, more competitive teams with less 2vs3, 2vs2, 3vs4 games and awkward position changes due to someone not turning up?


I've had all 5 players turn up to every game. Every one of my players can play at least 2 positions - so no 'out of position' is necessary. Therefore your point is entirely invalid here.
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Re: Champions League

Postby Girgensons » March 18th, 2012, 10:07 am

Rachel wrote:I've had all 5 players turn up to every game.

What's the probability of that happening 15 times in a row?

Are there 80 players in this community that are good at hax and able to be online every evening? No.

Every player that I picked for my team was online every night before the season started. Now one of them disappeared completely before the 1st Cup round. Is that something I could've predicted before? No. Does that hinder my chances of advancing to the 2nd round? Yes, it does. Would such a problem arise with a bigger roster limit? No, it wouldn't.

Every one of my players can play at least 2 positions - so no 'out of position' is necessary. Therefore your point is entirely invalid here.

Everyone can play several positions, the level of play though is going to differ. You don't see David Villa playing as a central defender very often, because Puyol has been injured, or Xavi as a GK?

Basically, the only thing you've said is that you don't want to have 6 players in your team. I'm not arguing with that, because it's your choice.

The question though is, why shouldn't other teams have 6 players on their roster if they feel that this would improve their game?

We've got 30 players rotting in the reserve league and loads of others that aren't free agents yet/anymore. We don't lack the players, so where's the problem?
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Re: Champions League

Postby Cam_Sampbell » March 18th, 2012, 11:27 am

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Rachel wrote:I've had all 5 players turn up to every game.

What's the probability of that happening 15 times in a row?

Are there 80 players in this community that are good at hax and able to be online every evening? No.

Every player that I picked for my team was online every night before the season started. Now one of them disappeared completely before the 1st Cup round. Is that something I could've predicted before? No. Does that hinder my chances of advancing to the 2nd round? Yes, it does. Would such a problem arise with a bigger roster limit? No, it wouldn't.


>Well, that's just unfortunate, but as you say, there are plenty of players that could replace him if you feel the need to.

Every one of my players can play at least 2 positions - so no 'out of position' is necessary. Therefore your point is entirely invalid here.

Everyone can play several positions, the level of play though is going to differ. You don't see David Villa playing as a central defender very often, because Puyol has been injured, or Xavi as a GK?


>Haxball =/= Football, there is a vast difference between the skill levels needed for haxball and football.

Basically, the only thing you've said is that you don't want to have 6 players in your team. I'm not arguing with that, because it's your choice.

>The question though is, why shouldn't other teams have 6 players on their roster if they feel that this would improve their game?

We've got 30 players rotting in the reserve league and loads of others that aren't free agents yet/anymore. We don't lack the players, so where's the problem?


>Well, personally I'd rather see players playing regularly in a reserves league, and showing off their abilities, rather than playing very occasionally.
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Re: Champions League

Postby Stevo » March 18th, 2012, 11:39 am

i will take that reserve league comment as offensive

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Re: Champions League

Postby Girgensons » March 18th, 2012, 12:16 pm

>Well, that's just unfortunate, but as you say, there are plenty of players that could replace him if you feel the need to.

Players that don't know anything about our tactics and who are not used to the style each of us play. No chemistry.

>Haxball =/= Football, there is a vast difference between the skill levels needed for haxball and football.

I could've used ice hockey or foosball in my analogy, it's not about equating football with haxball, but about underlining the fact that players have certain strengths and weaknesses, which make them more suited to a specific position on the field, just like in any other team sport.


Well, personally I'd rather see players playing regularly in a reserves league, and showing off their abilities, rather than playing very occasionally.

Again, false dichotomy. *facepalm* It's not a choice between a reserve league and players sitting on the bench in Div 1/2.

"I'd rather see players regularly playing in Div 1, rather than playing very occasionally in the reserve league." What now? :>

Players are not slaves, they can quit a team and join the reserves if they want to. Your argument is invalid.

If the players and the captain want to play in such a team, why shouldn't they? Because you don't like it?
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Re: Champions League

Postby opc » March 18th, 2012, 12:24 pm

Girgensons wrote:
"I'd rather see players regularly playing in Div 1, rather than playing very occasionally in the reserve league." What now? :>

Surely you must be aware how silly this statement is?
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Re: Champions League

Postby Girgensons » March 18th, 2012, 12:41 pm

opc wrote:
Girgensons wrote:
"I'd rather see players regularly playing in Div 1, rather than playing very occasionally in the reserve league." What now? :>

Surely you must be aware how silly this statement is?

Of course. Cam made things up (6th player never getting to play; 6th player forever stuck in a team that doesn't play him; no reserve league once the roster limit is marginally increased) and used that to justify his position. I did the same to show how ludicrous that is, that's all.
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Re: Champions League

Postby opc » March 18th, 2012, 12:51 pm

Girgensons wrote:
opc wrote:
Girgensons wrote:
"I'd rather see players regularly playing in Div 1, rather than playing very occasionally in the reserve league." What now? :>

Surely you must be aware how silly this statement is?

Of course. Cam made things up (6th player never getting to play; 6th player forever stuck in a team that doesn't play him; no reserve league once the roster limit is marginally increased) and used that to justify his position. I did the same to show how ludicrous that is, that's all.

But they're not comparable. One is very likely to happen in most teams, one isn't. Can you guess which is which?
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Re: Champions League

Postby Girgensons » March 18th, 2012, 1:02 pm

opc wrote:
Girgensons wrote:
opc wrote:
Girgensons wrote:
"I'd rather see players regularly playing in Div 1, rather than playing very occasionally in the reserve league." What now? :>

Surely you must be aware how silly this statement is?

Of course. Cam made things up (6th player never getting to play; 6th player forever stuck in a team that doesn't play him; no reserve league once the roster limit is marginally increased) and used that to justify his position. I did the same to show how ludicrous that is, that's all.

But they're not comparable. One is very likely to happen in most teams, one isn't. Can you guess which is which?

I think everyone's talking about their own team here, I was talking about mine. Every player rotates and gets equal playing time in NL and I surely don't want to keep anyone in my squad against their will. So in my case the statement I made makes a lot more sense. No idea how the things work in other teams. If other teams have slave-players, maybe that's the issue that we should focus on first.
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Re: Champions League

Postby Kun Aguero » March 19th, 2012, 12:27 am

BEST OF LUCK TO ALL THE UK TEAMS IN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE TOMOROW

I hope a team from 365 or FM wins it :D
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Re: Champions League

Postby Girgensons » March 19th, 2012, 12:29 pm

Why the fuck a division 2 team is completely randomly representing FM in the Champions League?

Who made that decision and how is that fair in respect to other teams?
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Re: Champions League

Postby naby » March 19th, 2012, 12:58 pm

Girgensons wrote:Why the fuck a division 2 team is completely randomly representing FM in the Champions League?

Who made that decision and how is that fair in respect to other teams?


That 'divison 2 team' would probably wipe the floor with yours. Don't put teams down just because they're division 2.
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Re: Champions League

Postby MoMo » March 19th, 2012, 1:01 pm

This calls for an un-friendly friendly.
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