Fake kick. Bug or feature?

[jasko]

Here is a video of how the fake kick works. The ball is obviously still, but JC7 makes it look for everyone else that he kicked the ball without even touching it. So the question is, is it a bug or is it a feature.

I can say from my experience that when I'm facing someone who uses this "bug" to their advantage I literally cannot trust my own eyes when I'm defending him and I'm playing on measly 15 extrapolation, I can't imagine putting more and defending that fake kick. Therefore I consider it a bug and think it should be fixed/removed from the game.

Share your opinion down below.

[SuarezN7]

I'm at 90 extrapolation and the fake pixel feels the same as for you (even though everything else is way shakier). I assume it's a bug but who knoes.
Might not be since it's not fixed or acknowledged yet by basro (there was a github post few months back)

[Whiplash]

I've stated many and many times, it's such a damn shame. The biggest, and the most annoying bug in the game. Of course, people are abusing it as well. Competitive haxball hasn't been the same for me since this bug occured, and I play with 0 extrapolation. User of this bug literally creates an illusion for their opponents, how can that even be a feature? LOL.

[KROL]

And whats the problem about that? that fake x was working on flash as well, I used to practice this move with tv5/mdfk 6 or 7 years ago every night ^^ who was playing ESL back then gonna remember that some of oldschool players were also able to use this bug on their hosts as a big advantage with opponent's high ping

So now u gonna cry about this because one of the best users of fake x - misaj - won all, and u want to blame it on the bug he uses ?
I think we should take back all his tittles even from the flash cause he was cheating there as well

Competitive haxball hasn't been the same for me since this bug occured, and I play with 0 extrapolation LOL.

I will repeat: fake x was working on flash as well

I know all of u turks are jeleaous and cant even get close to the Misaj's level so u are trying to find another way to lowerize his achievements
Idk, maybe try to ban him on turkish communities for using cheats and then other teams can win anything


I have no idea what is meaning of this thread, u want this game to become more easy for lessers who have no idea how to do this and defend this? Instead of trying to decrease abilities of stronger players than you so u can compete with them - try to just get better in this game and improve


PIECE

[B4D4SS]

KROL is right this always existed on Flash, I find it a nice addition to the game because it adds depth and rewards more skilled/knowledgable players with an extra weapon.

It only works on you if your out of position in defence or your midfield press has holes in it. If theres a big hole in your defence and Misaj does this fake in the centre, of course you will get juked but thats for being out of position and leaving dangerous gaps.

However I don't know how this interacts with extrapolation, maybe higher extrapolation users deal with this trick lasting too long because they see the move ahead of time? That could be why its more noticed now and complained about more than before.

[jasko]

So now u gonna cry about this because one of the best users of fake x - misaj - won all, and u want to blame it on the bug he uses ?
I think we should take back all his tittles even from the flash cause he was cheating there as well
I know all of u turks are jeleaous and cant even get close to the Misaj's level so u are trying to find another way to lowerize his achievements
Idk, maybe try to ban him on turkish communities for using cheats and then other teams can win anything

I have no idea what is meaning of this thread, u want this game to become more easy for lessers who have no idea how to do this and defend this? Instead of trying to decrease abilities of stronger players than you so u can compete with them - try to just get better in this game and improve

Why do you always take these discussions as a personal attack, you act so salty and offended every single time I bring up a discussion about Haxball's gameplay. I personally don't have a problem defending vs Misaj as I counter what he does pretty well (he literally plays different against us every time because of that). Misaj is a very good player and he'd still be a top DM without taking advantage of this. What I'm annoyed of is the fact that I cannot trust what I'm seeing anymore and that was never a problem before, not on flash and not on html5 until recently. It's too damn drastic.

And whats the problem about that? that fake x was working on flash as well, I used to practice this move with tv5/mdfk 6 or 7 years ago every night ^^ who was playing ESL back then gonna remember that some of oldschool players were also able to use this bug on their hosts as a big advantage with opponent's high ping

I will repeat: fake x was working on flash as well

KROL is right this always existed on Flash, I find it a nice addition to the game because it adds depth and rewards more skilled/knowledgable players with an extra weapon.

You guys are basically saying that because it existed before (even tho it never had this much of an effect on the gameplay as it does nowadays) it should remain that way. That's such a weak argument. So nothing in this world should ever change.

However I don't know how this interacts with extrapolation, maybe higher extrapolation users deal with this trick lasting too long because they see the move ahead of time? That could be why its more noticed now and complained about more than before.

I actually think that's the case now, yeah.

All in all, it's expected that the same people who are prepared to take extreme measures to gain advantage are willing to do anything to keep it that way. Happened with flash vs HTML5 discussion, extrapolation discussion and now here as well. That doesn't mean everyone should be quiet and have the same opinion as them. I'm trying to be objective and this is my opinion on the matter.

PEACE

[Ziyech]

i agree i hav this problem and my frend have this problem and is annoying play like this so i dont play activ i get canser every time i play when someone do this bug i play with 80 extra

my frend post this some month ago https://github.com/haxball/haxball-issu ... eVIAgDYZDs

[MARBLE7]

ffs same shits for years... either just try to get used to bugs/features of this game and accept as it is or simply quit. cuz noone fucking cares, even the owner of game. ur just wasting ur time.

[B4D4SS]

And whats the problem about that? that fake x was working on flash as well, I used to practice this move with tv5/mdfk 6 or 7 years ago every night ^^ who was playing ESL back then gonna remember that some of oldschool players were also able to use this bug on their hosts as a big advantage with opponent's high ping

I will repeat: fake x was working on flash as well

KROL is right this always existed on Flash, I find it a nice addition to the game because it adds depth and rewards more skilled/knowledgable players with an extra weapon.

You guys are basically saying that because it existed before (even tho it never had this much of an effect on the gameplay as it does nowadays) it should remain that way. That's such a weak argument. So nothing in this world should ever change.

That was more in response to Whiplash and others who might think its something new.

My argument was this:
I find it a nice addition to the game because it adds depth and rewards more skilled/knowledgable players with an extra weapon.

And I’ll add that its extra crucial in HTML because I feel the game has already been dumbed down and simplified so much already that the game cant afford to get even more simple imo. (Obviously it could but I mean the competitive player base will shrink even more than it already has!)

[aguero10]

Damn KROL i remember when u tricked Lagger in HCL with fake x and everybody blamed lag, but its just 6 years of practise wp.

[Whiplash]

And whats the problem about that? that fake x was working on flash as well, I used to practice this move with tv5/mdfk 6 or 7 years ago every night ^^ who was playing ESL back then gonna remember that some of oldschool players were also able to use this bug on their hosts as a big advantage with opponent's high ping

So now u gonna cry about this because one of the best users of fake x - misaj - won all, and u want to blame it on the bug he uses ?
I think we should take back all his tittles even from the flash cause he was cheating there as well

Competitive haxball hasn't been the same for me since this bug occured, and I play with 0 extrapolation LOL.

I will repeat: fake x was working on flash as well

I know all of u turks are jeleaous and cant even get close to the Misaj's level so u are trying to find another way to lowerize his achievements
Idk, maybe try to ban him on turkish communities for using cheats and then other teams can win anything


I have no idea what is meaning of this thread, u want this game to become more easy for lessers who have no idea how to do this and defend this? Instead of trying to decrease abilities of stronger players than you so u can compete with them - try to just get better in this game and improve


PIECE

Dear KROL, I'm actually more surprised every time you prove yourself stupid even better. You set the bar higher and higher for that.

Also, because this thing was on Flash, it doesn't necessarily mean that this BUG is normal. It's a flaw of the game, just because it's been around for years doesn't change the fact that it needs to be fixed. I have been playing since the beta, and I can also confirm that it was actually a thing, too. However, because the game is more fluid now + the extrapolation for many players, this bug affects the game and what players see more than ever before.

I'm not saying you can't be an advocate for this bug to remain in the game, but please try to develop an argument rather than mixing yourself with other people.

This is my last post on this matter.

Cheers.

[aeRo]

im gna fakekick ur nan down the stairs u litl knts

[ANDRÈA]

Simulation gang where you at

[Anddy]

https://github.com/haxball/haxball-issu ... -531476360

[Nocke]

https://github.com/haxball/haxball-issues/issues/896#issuecomment-531476360

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[KROL]

basro commented on 14 Sep 2019
This is not a bug, it's doing exactly what it should.

thanks anddy,

and Smurf, can you give me one good reason you -rep my post even tho i just defended the idea of fake x ?
You +rep Andyy who gave link to this what basro said and you're -reping me for noreason, and adding to Anddy comment that i deserved -4
Jewish logic, get cancer all of u haha

best regards and happy new year fuckers

[ROCKYBALBOA]

İt is a lag. not a fake. But talking about it is trivial because it won't change . Unfortunately.

[supermazhine]

stop crying about this fake shootsss

[Smurf2]

basro commented on 14 Sep 2019
This is not a bug, it's doing exactly what it should.

thanks anddy,

and Smurf, can you give me one good reason you -rep my post even tho i just defended the idea of fake x ?
You +rep Andyy who gave link to this what basro said and you're -reping me for noreason, and adding to Anddy comment that i deserved -4
Jewish logic, get cancer all of u haha

best regards and happy new year fuckers

Dear KROL,

unfortunately you didnt just defended the fake x you also tried to insult everyone who disagree with you + saying they are just jealous at misaj.
Anddy unlike you posted basro comment which was related to the post, so yea Anddy deserves +5 and you deserve -5. however i have only 5 rep to give so i mentioned in my +rep to Anddy that i would have given him +5 if your post didnt deserve the -4 rep more.

Best regards,
Myself, jewish logic and jewish cancer

[merle]

edit: no matter what im talking about there is still some people obeying some players